Many people today have the belief that Aļļaah is a being in a particular location, i.e. something with size. This belief is in itself incompatible with the teachings of Islam, and makes one a non-Muslim.
However, this is not the only problem. Another problem is that this is sometimes presented to the world as the real view of Islam, and as such makes Muslims look like clownish buffoons. Harsh words, yes, but unfortunately it is an understatement. This creed is incompatible with a logical and scientific view, like any of the other arbitrary religions out there.
This is because these proofs, and the proofs mentioned in the Qur’aan for that matter, are all based on looking at the world, i.e. looking at shapes of different color and movement, and construct logical argument for why they cannot be beginningless, and therefore must have a creator. When one turns around and says that Aļļaah Himself has a shape, by saying that He is in a location/direction, which necessitates a boundary confining Him, according to them, to this location, then one has effectively destroyed all arguments for the Creator’s existence. They make the atheist question, “if the world needs a creator, then why not the creator?” impossible to answer in a logically consistent manner, because if the shapes of the world need a creator, then why not all shapes? By representing their goofy view as Islam, they have opened the gates for the antichrist so to speak, by presenting it as just another incoherent religion.
Sunni Answers 
al-salam `alaikum,
Would you agree also that similarly the Salafi position in regards to Allah’s Speech is a gift to atheism i.e. Salafis say that although each of the individual words occur one after another after non-existence, their type is eternal, without a beginning and uncreated. So an atheist will then say yes, if the above is intellectually possible – we also believe similarly that the universe is evolving – one event occuring after another after non-existence – but the universe too is without a beginning and eternal.
They make the atheist question, “if the world needs a creator, then why not the creator?” impossible to answer in a logically consistent manner, because if the shapes of the world need a creator, then why not all shapes?
I wonder what explanation the wahabis come up for this and how they deal with atheists. I have often wondered about this possible question by atheists and what a wahabi would answer.
For the most part I think they deal with christians and somehow manage to prove that 1 giant in outer space, 1 ghost, and 1 human are 3 different bodies and not 1 body, and that the christians that are preached by them, should only worship the giant body in outer space, leaving alone the ghost and the human.
Other than that, they agree with the christians regarding the rest of the stuff relating to that giant body, like giant hands, giant feet, giant fingers, giant face, and so on, with only some minor variations. The christians believe the giant descends into their houses through chimneys, only on the eve of the 25th of December, wearing a red garage suit – while the wahabis believe the giant descends every night, not wearing a red garage suit.
As-salaamu ‘alaykum.
Brother ‘Abd-Allah, I think you have a mistaken understanding about the man in the red suit and Christians’ belief about him. If Christians think that Santa Claus is God, that’s the first I’ve heard of it.
Secondly, I think it may be a bit simplistic, to say the very least, to say that all Christians think of what they call “God the Father” as “a giant in outer space.” I can’t imagine that this is the approach of Catholic or mainstream Protestant theology, anyway.
Actually, there is no REAL difference. They are all bodies, and all bodies are logically in need of a creator, and it is all fairy tales. Sure, they don’t use those words, but the reality around all the glitter and cloudy mysticism, is as the brother said.
I also wonder what explanation the wahabis give for this sahih hadiith from Sahih Bukhariy:
عَنْ أَبِي ذَرٍّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ ، قَالَ : كُنْتُ مَعَ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ عِنْدَ غُرُوبِ الشَّمْسِ ، فَقَالَ : ” يَا أَبَا ذَرٍّ ، أَتَدْرِي أَيْنَ تَغْرُبُ الشَّمْسُ ؟ قُلْتُ : اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ أَعْلَمُ ، قَالَ : ” فَإِنَّهَا تَذْهَبُ حَتَّى تَسْجُدَ تَحْتَ الْعَرْشِ ، فَذَلِكَ قَوْلُهُ تَعَالَى : وَالشَّمْسُ تَجْرِي لِمُسْتَقَرٍّ لَهَا ذَلِكَ تَقْدِيرُ الْعَزِيزِ الْعَلِيمِ
Do they contend that the ‘arsh is located right here in our solar system, or at least the milky way, or ‘outside the universe where there is no direction’ as mr. albani used to believe?
It seems mr. albani was of the opinion that directions only exist ‘inside’ of the universe, and not ‘outside’ of it.
This hadiith would really rough them up, unless of course they want to borrow some tawil and tafwid from us.
thanks for the article
you wrote : ( By representing their goofy view as Islam, they have opened the gates for the antichrist so to speak )
that’s my conclusion ,too. may Allaah preserve us from their deviancy !!!